Comments on: Al Gore Suffers Memory Loss after Cycling from USA to Oz http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/al-gore-suffers-memory-loss-after-cycling-from-usa-to-oz/ Bridging the gap between reality and official science Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:26:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: admin http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/al-gore-suffers-memory-loss-after-cycling-from-usa-to-oz/comment-page-1/#comment-26151 admin Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:49:23 +0000 http://climateresearchnews.com/?p=1072#comment-26151 I will post up two conflicting media articles - the one by Tsonis,and another by Swanson, plus the RC Swanson guest post. Climate models suck, period! We can explain climate change on the basis of the internal variability, including natural climate cycles as identified by Tsonis et al, volcanoes, poorly understood solar factors, a solar amplifier (Shaviv, 2008), and the cosmic ray-cloud link, which is being investigated/quantified by CERN. It's clear from the work of Tsonis et al that the climate-temperature shifts in the 20th and 21st centuries are natural, on top of whatever drives the underlying temperature of the earth, which is more likely to be solar factors than poorly correlated CO2. I will post up two conflicting media articles – the one by Tsonis,and another by Swanson, plus the RC Swanson guest post. Climate models suck, period! We can explain climate change on the basis of the internal variability, including natural climate cycles as identified by Tsonis et al, volcanoes, poorly understood solar factors, a solar amplifier (Shaviv, 2008), and the cosmic ray-cloud link, which is being investigated/quantified by CERN.

It’s clear from the work of Tsonis et al that the climate-temperature shifts in the 20th and 21st centuries are natural, on top of whatever drives the underlying temperature of the earth, which is more likely to be solar factors than poorly correlated CO2.

]]> By: Andrew http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/al-gore-suffers-memory-loss-after-cycling-from-usa-to-oz/comment-page-1/#comment-26149 Andrew Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:43:53 +0000 http://climateresearchnews.com/?p=1072#comment-26149 Paul, I see you alerted Roger Pielke Senior to Tsonis's alternative take on his and Kyle Swanson's research feature recently on "Realclimate"-I was wondering if you would post your thoughts on that post at some point-I have some of my own, to wit, as I posted on another blog: "So much for the attribution argument-namely “Given that our models realistically simulate natural variability [HA!] they need anthropogenic forcing to explain warming” Hence the IPCC statement “Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.” Oops, major problem. Model internal variability is NOT well simulated by models, as this research itself shows!" Paul, I see you alerted Roger Pielke Senior to Tsonis’s alternative take on his and Kyle Swanson’s research feature recently on “Realclimate”-I was wondering if you would post your thoughts on that post at some point-I have some of my own, to wit, as I posted on another blog:
“So much for the attribution argument-namely “Given that our models realistically simulate natural variability [HA!] they need anthropogenic forcing to explain warming” Hence the IPCC statement “Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”

Oops, major problem. Model internal variability is NOT well simulated by models, as this research itself shows!”

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