Comments on: New Paper: Evidence for Solar Forcing in Variability of Temperatures and Pressures in Europe http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/new-paper-evidence-for-solar-forcing-in-variability-of-temperatures-and-pressures-in-europe/ Bridging the gap between reality and official science Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:26:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Bob Armstrong http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/new-paper-evidence-for-solar-forcing-in-variability-of-temperatures-and-pressures-in-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-25413 Bob Armstrong Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:20:59 +0000 http://climateresearchnews.com/?p=1002#comment-25413 I don't understand why there is any ambiguity about effect of the sun on our mean temperature . The Classical Stefan-Boltzmann/Kirchhoff relationships tightly constrains the mean temperature of objects in our orbit to be about 1/21st the temperature of the sun . If the sun's mean surface temperature changes 10c , our temperature will change about 0.5c . The implementation in a few lines modern array programming language is on my website . One should , for instance , be able to extract an approximately 1% variation in our temperature from aphelion to perihelion by averaging over a couple of decades . The SB/K relationship is not an option . Such things as attributing Venus's extreme temperature to "runaway" warming shows an total ignorance of the 120 to 150 year old physics . Nothing can hold heat in ; it can only slow it , reducing the variance , and the "green" gas , CO2 , upon which all life is constructed , does help with that . I don’t understand why there is any ambiguity about effect of the sun on our mean temperature . The Classical Stefan-Boltzmann/Kirchhoff relationships tightly constrains the mean temperature of objects in our orbit to be about 1/21st the temperature of the sun . If the sun’s mean surface temperature changes 10c , our temperature will change about 0.5c . The implementation in a few lines modern array programming language is on my website . One should , for instance , be able to extract an approximately 1% variation in our temperature from aphelion to perihelion by averaging over a couple of decades .

The SB/K relationship is not an option . Such things as attributing Venus’s extreme temperature to “runaway” warming shows an total ignorance of the 120 to 150 year old physics . Nothing can hold heat in ; it can only slow it , reducing the variance , and the “green” gas , CO2 , upon which all life is constructed , does help with that .

]]> By: Jennifer Marohasy » Evidence for ‘Solar Signature’ http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/new-paper-evidence-for-solar-forcing-in-variability-of-temperatures-and-pressures-in-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-25412 Jennifer Marohasy » Evidence for ‘Solar Signature’ Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:46:12 +0000 http://climateresearchnews.com/?p=1002#comment-25412 [...] With the recent downturn of both solar activity and global temperatures…  Read more here. [...] [...] With the recent downturn of both solar activity and global temperatures…  Read more here. [...]

]]> By: Robin Edwards http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/new-paper-evidence-for-solar-forcing-in-variability-of-temperatures-and-pressures-in-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-25357 Robin Edwards Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:13:31 +0000 http://climateresearchnews.com/?p=1002#comment-25357 I've not yet read the paper, but am very interested in the statement on a step-like jump. This is no surprise to me. I have noticed step changes in various climate time series, and have reached the tentative conclusion that much of climate change proceeds by such abrupt happenings. However, it remains a mystery to me why such changes should occur. For a prime example please examine data for southern Greenland (eg Nuuk) for the period 1880 to near the present, and look in particular at late 1922. Here a step change of nearly 2 degrees Celsius occurred in around two or three months. I’ve not yet read the paper, but am very interested in the statement on a step-like jump. This is no surprise to me. I have noticed step changes in various climate time series, and have reached the tentative conclusion that much of climate change proceeds by such abrupt happenings. However, it remains a mystery to me why such changes should occur. For a prime example please examine data for southern Greenland (eg Nuuk) for the period 1880 to near the present, and look in particular at late 1922. Here a step change of nearly 2 degrees Celsius occurred in around two or three months.

]]> By: Climate Change Update – Falling Dominoes | QandO http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/new-paper-evidence-for-solar-forcing-in-variability-of-temperatures-and-pressures-in-europe/comment-page-1/#comment-25290 Climate Change Update – Falling Dominoes | QandO Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:04:01 +0000 http://climateresearchnews.com/?p=1002#comment-25290 [...] feet of Al Gore, another inconvenient truth is to be found in a recently published paper from the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics: The Abstract [...] [...] feet of Al Gore, another inconvenient truth is to be found in a recently published paper from the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics: The Abstract [...]

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