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	<title>Comments on: Nature Geoscience Study: Abiogenic Oil and Gas Forever?</title>
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		<title>By: Konrad Fischer</title>
		<link>http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/nature-geoscience-study-abiogenic-oil-and-gas-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-39097</link>
		<dc:creator>Konrad Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The abiotic origin of hydrocarbon fuels is an old story and Thomas Gold is telling it again many years ago. Who was the inventor of the fossile fairy tale? Mikhailo V. Lomonosov in the year 1757. Read more here: http://www.cprm.gov.br/33IGC/1286972.html

Must be news for some people, astonishing ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The abiotic origin of hydrocarbon fuels is an old story and Thomas Gold is telling it again many years ago. Who was the inventor of the fossile fairy tale? Mikhailo V. Lomonosov in the year 1757. Read more here: <a href="http://www.cprm.gov.br/33IGC/1286972.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cprm.gov.br/33IGC/1286972.html</a></p>
<p>Must be news for some people, astonishing &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cornucopia?</title>
		<link>http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/nature-geoscience-study-abiogenic-oil-and-gas-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-38672</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornucopia?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that Kucherov did the same experiment back in 2002, see http://www.pnas.org/content/99/17/10976.full?maxtoshow=&amp;HITS=10&amp;hits=10&amp;RESULTFORMAT=&amp;fulltext=genesis+of+hydrocarbons+and+the+origin+of+petroleum&amp;searchid=1085470440708_510&amp;stored_search=&amp;FIRSTINDEX=0%253E

It is nice that Nature cares so much for the environment that the recycle old experiments and republish as new ones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that Kucherov did the same experiment back in 2002, see <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/99/17/10976.full?maxtoshow=&amp;HITS=10&amp;hits=10&amp;RESULTFORMAT=&amp;fulltext=genesis+of+hydrocarbons+and+the+origin+of+petroleum&amp;searchid=1085470440708_510&amp;stored_search=&amp;FIRSTINDEX=0%253E" rel="nofollow">http://www.pnas.org/content/99/17/10976.full?maxtoshow=&amp;HITS=10&amp;hits=10&amp;RESULTFORMAT=&amp;fulltext=genesis+of+hydrocarbons+and+the+origin+of+petroleum&amp;searchid=1085470440708_510&amp;stored_search=&amp;FIRSTINDEX=0%253E</a></p>
<p>It is nice that Nature cares so much for the environment that the recycle old experiments and republish as new ones&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Planet Earth has an ENDLESS Supply of Hydrocarbon Fuels - PriusChat Forums</title>
		<link>http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/nature-geoscience-study-abiogenic-oil-and-gas-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-30398</link>
		<dc:creator>Planet Earth has an ENDLESS Supply of Hydrocarbon Fuels - PriusChat Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Earth has an ENDLESS Supply of Hydrocarbon Fuels    Climate Research News Nature Geoscience Study: Abiogenic Oil and Gas Forever?  Scientists are re-thinking the theory that dead plant and animal matter plus geo-forces produce [...]</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/nature-geoscience-study-abiogenic-oil-and-gas-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-30116</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Junk science it may be, but there is more here:

Published in Science on 1st February 2008: ‘Abiogenic Hydrocarbon Production at Lost City Hydrothermal Field’ states in the Abstract that, ” Our findings illustrate that the abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons in nature may occur in the presence of ultramafic rocks, water, and moderate amounts of heat.”

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/319/5863/604

Non-fossil Hydrocarbons on Saturn’s moon Titan:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/02/14/2162556.htm

Saturn moon awash with oil

Saturn moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, scientists report.

But this massive reserve is at least 1.2 billion kilometres away from us, on a tiny inhospitable world where on a warm day it’s minus 179°C.

Researchers from the European Space Agency (ESA), report their findings about Saturn’s orange moon in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

Their results suggest that methane and ethane fall like rain from the sky, forming massive lakes and seas.

And complex organic molecules called tholins are believed to make up Titan’s oily dunes.

“Titan is just covered in carbon-bearing material. It’s a giant factory of organic chemicals,” says scientist Dr Ralph Lorenz, Johns Hopkins University.

Lorenz is a member of a team poring over radar data sent back by the US space probe Cassini, which dispatched a European probe, Huygens, to the moon’s surface.

Understanding Titan’s carbon-chemistry cookbook may unlock knowledge as to how Earth’s carbon-based life began, the researchers hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Junk science it may be, but there is more here:</p>
<p>Published in Science on 1st February 2008: ‘Abiogenic Hydrocarbon Production at Lost City Hydrothermal Field’ states in the Abstract that, ” Our findings illustrate that the abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons in nature may occur in the presence of ultramafic rocks, water, and moderate amounts of heat.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/319/5863/604" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/319/5863/604</a></p>
<p>Non-fossil Hydrocarbons on Saturn’s moon Titan:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/02/14/2162556.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/02/14/2162556.htm</a></p>
<p>Saturn moon awash with oil</p>
<p>Saturn moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, scientists report.</p>
<p>But this massive reserve is at least 1.2 billion kilometres away from us, on a tiny inhospitable world where on a warm day it’s minus 179°C.</p>
<p>Researchers from the European Space Agency (ESA), report their findings about Saturn’s orange moon in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.</p>
<p>Their results suggest that methane and ethane fall like rain from the sky, forming massive lakes and seas.</p>
<p>And complex organic molecules called tholins are believed to make up Titan’s oily dunes.</p>
<p>“Titan is just covered in carbon-bearing material. It’s a giant factory of organic chemicals,” says scientist Dr Ralph Lorenz, Johns Hopkins University.</p>
<p>Lorenz is a member of a team poring over radar data sent back by the US space probe Cassini, which dispatched a European probe, Huygens, to the moon’s surface.</p>
<p>Understanding Titan’s carbon-chemistry cookbook may unlock knowledge as to how Earth’s carbon-based life began, the researchers hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cousins</title>
		<link>http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/nature-geoscience-study-abiogenic-oil-and-gas-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-30115</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cousins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The abiogenic theory of oil generation (aka abiotic oil) is junk science, and Kutcherov is one of those publicity loving jerks who gets a snippet of fact from one experiment and then unjustifiably extraplates it to the whole world. Note how the language in the abstract is quite different to the press release. It goes from saying &quot;some&quot; hydrocarbons &quot;could&quot; be created in the mantle to saying that we will never run out of oil, which is BS. We could have 1000 barrels per year of abiotic oil for ever, but what about 30 billion barrels/year, which is what we use currently?

The fact is that all commercial oil production is from oil that can be traced to natural origin, and absolutely no oil has been found in significant quantities based on where abiotic theories say it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The abiogenic theory of oil generation (aka abiotic oil) is junk science, and Kutcherov is one of those publicity loving jerks who gets a snippet of fact from one experiment and then unjustifiably extraplates it to the whole world. Note how the language in the abstract is quite different to the press release. It goes from saying &#8220;some&#8221; hydrocarbons &#8220;could&#8221; be created in the mantle to saying that we will never run out of oil, which is BS. We could have 1000 barrels per year of abiotic oil for ever, but what about 30 billion barrels/year, which is what we use currently?</p>
<p>The fact is that all commercial oil production is from oil that can be traced to natural origin, and absolutely no oil has been found in significant quantities based on where abiotic theories say it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Peak Oil........Global Nightmare. - VolNation</title>
		<link>http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/nature-geoscience-study-abiogenic-oil-and-gas-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-29961</link>
		<dc:creator>Peak Oil........Global Nightmare. - VolNation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that are largely hostile to the US.  peak oil is like anthropogenic global warming, a theory.  Climate Research News Nature Geoscience Study: Abiogenic Oil and Gas Forever?  __________________ Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from [...]</description>
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